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pennsylvania. this manhunt for an escaped killer is now expanding. also, two pennsylvania school districts in that area being search by authorities will be closed today. >> we are standing by for a news conference set to begin soon on the search for danelo cavalcante who is serving life without parole for killing his ex-girlfriend. cnn's danny freeman joins us now. you have been covering this several days. what are the tactics being used? what do we expect to hear at the press conference? prichlt well, phil, poppy, a lot of different tactics used on the ground and in the air. one of the ones we have been speaking about is that police are now using a broadcast message that was recorded by danelo cavalcante's mother. it's in portuguese. they are playing that from helicopters and from vehicles on the road in the search area. it's really a plea from his mother to say surrender, turn yourself in. that's one of the tactics. we have also seen a lot of pennsylvania state police
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troopers with their long guns out, standing guard in a lot of different areas south of the prison where we are and where that escape happened six days ago. and i want to note, phil, like you said, we got that update from the district attorney's office that this manhunt has expanded. two school districts have closed. the kenic consolidated school district, the union school district as well. both school districts citing that the search situation has evolved. now, after we heard that announcement from the school districts, we heard from the d.a.'s office, they are going to have a press conference at 8:30. so really just the next 30 minutes or so to give an update on the situation. i want to emphasize why this expanding search raid yes is important, because throughout the weekend, law enforcement officials have been emphatic that cavalcante has been near the prison in this area, has not
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gotten that farther, and they focused on a two-mile stretch. if this is true, this manhunt is expanding, this is the first time since this started that this search will take place further than really this two-mile radius around the area. i want to drill down and really emphasize to viewers, this area around the prison in chester county is very diverse when it comes to the terrain. there are a lot of wooded areas, creeks, there are even corn fields and police have said that made this search incredibly difficult because there are just a lot of places for this escaped inmate and this convicted murderer to hide. phil, poppy. >> we will take that press conference live in a half an our. i know you will be watching. keep us updated, thank you. the kremlin is not commenting on kim jong-un's alleged plans to meet later this month with vladimir putin in russia. u.s. officials say the north korean dictator is planning to
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meet face to face with putin to discuss supplying weapons andage anything for the war on ukraine. we are learning that kim wants satellite and nuclear submarine technology. >> paula hancocks is in seoul, south korea. the kremlin has not said anything at all. you covered these issues for a long time. what does this tell you about what may be happening here? >> reporter: well, phil, we have had denials from both pyongyang and moscow for some time. that's not particularly surprising at this point. but both russia and north korea stand to benefit greatly from this closer alliance, not just militarily, but politically. the first and last meeting between the current leaders of russia and north korea was more than four years ago. since then russian president vladimir putin invaded ukraine and his military efforts are faltering. for kim jong-un, the power dynamics have changed. >> a large power is now dependent on him.
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that hasn't happened in a while. are the second thing he gains is the possibility of access to more oil. at the moment that kim jong-un is testing his ballistic missiles, particularly the long-range ones, many of which have design commonalities with russian missiles, he can get help there. >> reporter: moscow could receive multiple times of munitions from pyongyang, which could be used on the front lines in ukraine. the biden administration believes north korea delivered rockets and missiles for use by russian mercenary force wagner last year. >> translator: russia and north korea have something in common. interoperability of conventional weapons. north korea's 152 millimeter artillery mission and rocket launcher ammunition can be used on russian weapons immediately. >> reporter: u.s. officials assess kim jong-un may travel to russia to meet vladimir putin
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this month. there is an eastern economic forum next week. letters of support have been ex pang g changed between leaders. the red carpet treatment was given to kim in july. the military capabilities on full display. south korea's intelligence agency says a russian delegation visited in august. a russian plane is believed to have transferred unknown military supplies from pyongyang. pyongyang and moscow deny any potential arms deal. >> kim is becoming more paranoid than normal the last four or five years. for him this alliance achieves, makes him look less ice lighted, s provides a psychological boost for him and his inner circle. >> reporter: both countries are united by an enemy, the united states. both countries are interested in seeing an alternative. the u.s. is less powerful and
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where u.n. security council resolutions are less able to be imposed. >> thank you very much. joining us now is former trump national secured advisor john bolton. thank you for joining us. the news itself, the possibility of a meeting between kim jong-un and president putin and kim leaving north korea to travel to russia, what does that tell you? >> well, i think this is a big win for kim jong-un and the north koreans in virtually every respect. the pr aspect of it. but in the ties that it will help increase between fnorth korea and russia, it's mutually beneficial to both and russia getting weapons and ammunition. it opens the possibility of a kind of conveyor belt if china doesn't want to supply weapons directly, it can supply them to north korea and, lo and behold, they could, in turn, be supplied to russia. from kim jong-un's point of view
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for years of being dependent on china, people estimate north korea gets 90% of its oil from china, he has a possibility to open up oil and gas coming from russia n this complex relationship between russia and china, while they are growing closer, russia is worried about china's aspirations in the regional. for example, the critical naval base and port city of validvostok was ruled by china in the 19th century. putin gains by tightening the relationship between north korea and russia. kim jong-un gains now by being able to play the two off against each other as his grandfather used to do back in the days of the cold war. and overall, i think it's another example of the u.s. being asleep while significant geopolitical developments are underway. >> you think the u.s. is asleep? you are talking about the biden
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administration? >> well, i'm talking about many americans. i mean, look, i think the pursuit of the effort to get a nuclear deal with north korea now three decades long has proven to be a complete waste of time. i think this recent story about kim and putin should tell us how significant it is that we focus on the end of north korea, not dealing with north korea, but the reunification of the peninsula. >> so you talked about oil and what getting oil from russia could mean for north korea. what about the weapons technology that north korea wants? wants from russia, if gets what it wants on those fronts, what is the immediate risk to the west and the nor long-term risk? >> well, i think north korea's been receiving clandestine assistance on missiles and the nuclear programs from china and russia for a long time. they used to admit it. in recent years they deny it.
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the north korean missile force is based on russian-supplied technology, formerly scud missiles. but the potential is very significant. while north korea demonstrated it can detonate nuclear devices and fire missiles that have a range to hit the continental united states, it is not yet demonstrated it has the targeting capability to hit the places it aims at, or necessarily the technology to bring a nuclear weapon back into the atmosphere and a warhead that's secure enough that it's not destroyed on re-entry. russia, obviously, has both those capabilities. i am sure that's what north korea wants. >> back to what you said about the idea of the end -- people asleep at the wheel to some degree and the end of north korea being kind of the necessary outcome at this point, not whatever has been happening, i think, over several administrations, several decades at this point.
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i guess my question is, how does that happen, right? if you look at allies in the region while many people look at the current administration's policy as the -- the indo-pacific policy being china-based when you look at the relationship between japan and south korea that has formed and evolved over the course of the last couple of years, you could say that also has to do with north korea as well. what's the gap between that and ending north korea as you propose? >> well, the division of north korea and south korea 1945 was intended to be temporary just as we've seen the division between east and west germany end. but for decades, american leaders in both parties have routinely accepted that this hereditary communist dictatorship has to be the strangest form of government on earth today, is going to go on together. i think we need a psychological and political change that we
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don't accept north korea as a legitimate state. >> i understand -- >> it's a big step towards it. the policy is simple but not one that administrations, republican or democratic, have been willing to follow, which is even more significant sanctions against north korea and the determination and making it clear to both china and russia that we expect that we are going to do what we said we'd do in 1945 and bring the regime back into unification with the south. if we don't focus on the policy, won't happen. >> you worked in the trump administration but have since been critical of the way that trump has interacted with courtship with, if you will, kim and putin. i am interested in your take on how one of his republican competitors in the primary, vivek ramaswamy, chose not to answer questions about whether he thinks putin is a war criminal because it reminds me of some questions that
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then-president trump was asked about putin. here is that exchange with reporters yesterday in new hampshire. >> i think that putin is a dictator and i think there are open questions that need to be adjudicated by the iccj. we have it for a reason. my job adds the u.s. president is to advance american interests. putin's actions have been craven. i have said it all along. >> do you believe he is a war criminal? >> we have to get the facts before we get to the bottom of that. >> you previously called the international criminal court illegitimate when it issued that warrant to arrest putin accusing him of war crimes. what do you make of vivek ramaswamy not answering the question of whether or not he thinks putin is a war criminal? >> well, i think ramaswamy reminds me an awful lot of donald trump. he has very firm opinions on subjects he knows absolutely nothing about, and this was an
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example of it. if he supports the international criminal court as he appeared to do, i hope he makes clear why i thinks the icc is a such a good something. this is something that ultimately is going to have to be resolved either by the russians themselves or by the ukrainians, and the main point is that ramaswamy has made other statements about this war and about what he is going to do to try to solve it, like trump said, he would put zelenskyy and putin in a room and he'd have it solved in tin 24 hours. ramaswamy is going to end the war that way, i mean, they might as well be in kindergarten talking about a very complex situation. but there is no mistake. i think ramaswamy emulates trump every time he can. >> ambassador john bolton, appreciate your perspective this morning. thank you. >> glad to be with you.
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facing multiple allegations, bribery, abuse of power and retaliation against whistleblowers. accusations of corruption and scandal dogged him since 2015. ed, what are we expecting this morning? this is a big deal down in texas. >> reporter: an historic impeachment process. as best we can tell, the fog of uncertainty has to how all of of this is going to unfold. paxton was impeached overwhelmingly by republicans in the house of representatives. now it moves over to the senate side for the impeachment trial and the question is whether republicans, which dominate that senate chamber, will convict one of their own. just days before this start of his impeachment trial, ken paxton showed up at a rally to kick off his wife's state senate re-election campaign. >> please welcome to the stage my husband, the love of my life, my best friend, texas attorney general ken paxton.
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>> reporter: the suspended republican attorney general was impeached on 20 articles, including charges of retaliating against whistleblowers, abuse of power and bribery as well as misconduct involving an alleged affair. paxton used this moment to pound the theme that he is the victim of a political witch hunt. >> if you kept up, i -- you could read that i am responsible for the jfk assassination and for 9/11 and everything in between. >> reporter: paxton's impeachment trial begins tuesday in the texas state senate and it features some of the highest profile and unique legal characters in the state. paxton is represented by dan cog dale and tony busby. they described the impeachment of paxton as a drive-by shooting. >> this was a sham. it was a sham from the get go. >> to say this case not about politics has the credibility,
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the beliefability and sincerity of the fellow trying to convince his life that he goes to the strip joint to the foid. it's not about the naked women. it's about the food. nonsense. it's definitionally political. nonsense. >> reporter: prosecuting the case against paxton are the legendary rusty hardin and dick deguerin. a few months ago, cnn asked rusty hardin to comment and he referred us to this classic scene from the 1992 joe pesci courtroom comedy "my cousin vinny." >> a guy just says [ bleep ]. >> reporter: the political stakes are sky high. in may, paxton was impeached by texas house republicans, 121-23. and paxton is vowing political retribution against those republicans who voted against him.
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>> let's clean house. >> reporter: there are 31 state senators. one is angela paxton. the attorney general's wife. but she will not be allowed to vote-her husband's impeachment. there are 12 democrats in the senate and prosecutors need 21 votes to remove paxton from office. the question is whether nine republicans will vote against paxton. strategist brendan steinhauser says it's not clear how the trial will play out. >> there is a lot of political pressure from all sides. this is unprecedented. they are trying to do their constitutional duty, the legally, morally, ethically right thing. they don't know what that is until they dive into it and see the evidence. >> reporter: paxton has enjoyed support from donald trump and among republican voters. >> he is a great man. >> reporter: steinhauser says paxton is benefiting from trump's attacks that the justice system is weaponized against politicians like them. >> that alignment is important
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for paxton because it helps him, gives him some political support among the grassroots voters and activists the republican party of texas, and it makes it more difficult for state senators and state representatives to impeach and then convict him. >> reporter: there is a chance that all of this could be dismissed before it even starts. senators are expected to consider a wave of motions that -- motions that would essentially do away with most of the impeachment articles of impeachment. so it's not clear how that's going play out in the coming hours. and we expect, if this goes to trial, we expect to see ken paxton put on the witness stand. his lawyers say he will not testify but impeachment managers say they will insist on calling him to testify. how this unfolds, will take place the next several weeks if it gets that far. >> you will be reporting on every step of the way. thank you. all right. so we're standing by for a news conference. in several minutes, an update
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taking jabs at former president trump. was speaking to union workers yesterday in philadelphia. the president was touting job creation and organized labor in an effort to shore up support. he is expected to return to the campaign trial, trump, after three weeks off. he has appearances in iowa and south dakota. rivals in new hampshire today, also where vivek ramaswamy spent labor day weekend. he has been going head-to-head with former vice president mike pence since that debate rumble over the weekend. pence called ramaswamy wrong on foreign policy and response. ramaswamy said pence is misrepresenting his positions but he is open to talking with him. shelby tall cot is with us, mora gillespie, and democratic strategist and former executive of the state democratic party,
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basil. welcome to the table. that guy, not trump, that guy or the last guy, that's how he intentionally chose to refer to trump yesterday on the trail. what's biden doing? >> he is trying to distinguish his economic record from trump's because it is so important to voters. every time i am out on the ground, the economy is one of the top issues that voters talk about. it's not necessarily always in biden's favor because even though the numbers show one thing, the voters, as you guys have talked about a lot, aren't necessarily feeling it. so biden's trying to show that, hey, no, my economic record actually is really good and you don't want to go back to the last guy. on the flip side, when i talk to trump's aides, they also recognize that the economy is a top issue. they are doing the same thing, trying to distinguish their economic record from biden's and saying, no, biden's is the bad one. this is going to it be a big issue, not just heating up in a primary, but into a general
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election. >> you saw, look, those were sharper words from president biden when it comes to trump. you also have sara if turkisher at axios, that ad buy with the opening weekend of the nfl season talking about the economy and economics, contrasting with what it was at the end of the trump administration to now. is this the thing that haeps them turn the corner i have been told for two years they were just about to turn, but? >> well, yeah. so let's talk about the ad buy for a second. if you consider that the number of swing states, voters have decreased the last few cycles and consider the fact that he is not only had an ad buy in those states and also targeted towards communities of color, so that base vote, in addition to what he is doing in terms of talking to labor out on the campaign trail. so it's a highly targeted message that i do think works with republicans who don't
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necessarily want to vote for donald trump and independent voters who have supported democrats in the past that want to continue to do so. i do acknowledge that there are parts of the party that are concerned. if you are a young voter looking for your new home or looking to stay in the city like new york and rent, you know, some of those prices might be unaffordable for you. but i think there are bigger parts of his strategy, particularly when you look at student loan repayments, for example, that i do think engage those younger voters and can help bring that base out. >> they lost on that. the first strategy at the supreme court. now they are trying to figure out if the other way is going to work. mora, last night i went back and re-read this piece peter baker wrote in the "times," why there was this disconnect how the economy is doing and how people wrote. he said what may prove more vexing to mr. biden is the possibility that the political
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prospects may be decoupled from such issues. in past generations americans were reactive to events in reac thing to presidents. in recent years, they are locked in their partisan corner. it's different now. the way voters reacted to numbers on the economy was different now than it -- is different now than it was before. do you agree with that assessment? are. >> i do. people are stuck their political believes that they are not look objectively at anything. whatever biden is touting about infrastructure, you are seeing republicans who are touting it, too, saying that, you know, it's good for our district, good for us, like here i am as a leader. they are not being objective in the fact that some people didn't vote tore it and people at home are looking at the biden administration talking about inflation going down. yet, prices for groceries, for gas, for housing all have gone up. 20, 30% and higher. so there is a disconnect there. again, it's easier to keep your
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political helmets on and just stay in your kind of corners than really look at things, you know, objectively. it's going to impact voters at the poll, you know, as they go to 2024 and beyond. >> shelby, to basil's point, as if the biden campaign talked about a targeted subset of voters they needed to focus on, and then bought ads there. that's how works, right? >> that's how it works. >> my question is, does the trump campaign, when tyou to tak to their team are think thinking, like, here is our kind of universe of voters, persuadables or people that need to come home and targeting them with kind of how their operation is roperating right now. >> i was talking to trump's team last night. they view union workers as a possibility get they may not have had in the past because of biden's tumultuous relationship --
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>> if you ask them, they might. >> exactly. that's one of their kind of sect of voters they may not have had in the past, but they think they are gettable. you should expect them to kind of find ways to hone in on that sect of workers and try to get them over to their side. >> yeah. going back to the question earlier, there has been this tension between fact and faith, right? what are the actual numbers versus what do i believe. that's a universal sort of tension in politics. one of the things that i think the biden team needs to do, as you talk about this decoupling, is say the good economy that you are experiencing, even if you have some concerns about it, is also aligned with good governance. that's what biden harris has done and will continue to do. what do you get on other side? turmoil. chaos. if you are concerned about a good economy, you vote for the party that gives you good governance and good policy aamongst the chaos.
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i think that has to be part of that biden/harris message for 2024. >> i hear you. but if you are sitting at home -- i came from a week in our wonderful state of minnesota. i am sitting there, going to buy eggs and they are more and my mortgage is at 7%, i can't afford to get a new home and my rent is too high, i don't want chaos but my family can't -- i can't sustain their life like this. >> i think this is where candidates that are running for the 2024 gop spot have a real opportunity to capitalize on it. we need strong leadership in america. we need somebody who understands the issues and who can present a plan and i think that's what these candidates should be doing because donald trump doesn't have a plan. >> stand by. this breaking news on the manhunt for the convicted murderer in pennsylvania. let's listen in. >> joining me today is district attorney deb ryan and chief county detective david sassa from the chester county d.a.'s
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office. as you know, on the morning of thursday, august 31, inmate danelo cavalcante escaped from the chester county prison. since the day of the escape, there credible sightings within an area i described yesterday. we had one additional sighting last evening and conducted a search of the area but were unable to locate him. this morning we were notified by security at longwood gardens they had trail camera photos taken on their property which appear to be cavalcante south of the perimeter. investigators quickly examined those photos and we can confirm it is cavalcante. the photos confirm that cavalcante has not changed his appearance, but also he has obtained a backpack, a duffle sling type pack, and a hooded sweatshirt. cavalcante is depicted in the photo walking north at 8:21 p.m. and south through the same
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location at 9:33 p.m. working with the district attorney's office, several steps were quickly taken, including shifting our perimeter in an attempt to contain him between the southern end of the established perimeter and an area south of route 1. the district attorney and i had a lengthy conversation yesterday afternoon with the superintendents of a number of area school districts. we assured them if anything changed we would promptly notify them. as promised, that notification occurred at 5:00 a.m. resulting in a decision by the unionville chadds ford and kennett consolidated school districts to cancel classes for the day. we will work with the district toss determine what will occur in coming days. a reverse 911 call was sent out to the residents within a 1.5-mile area of the camera that was located and that occurred at 5:27 a.m. this was expanded to three miles at around 7:00 a.m.
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we had already requested and begun to mobilize resources from additional federal agencies last evening to include the fbi and u.s. customs and border patrol. people and equipment from those agencies is being mobilized and added to the search as we speak. we continue to ask for public's help by familiarizing themselves with the photograph and the description of cavalcante. we are also asking people in an expanded area from the pew copsen township area to be alert and call us with anything suspicious. we ask them to secure homes, outbuildings and vehicles. cavalcante has clearly already obtained some clothing and unknown other supplies and we want to minimize any opportunity to obtain anything more. it is important we keep pressure on him as we continue this hunt. we are also asking residents and businesses anywhere in or near this area to check their home and business security cameras and call us with anything suspicious that they might observe.
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a tip line has been established. 717-562-2987. that was 717-562-2987. we remind everyone that a reward totaling up to $10,000 has been offered for information leading to the capture of danelo cavalcante. what i would also ask is that people consider signing up for the alerts here in chester county and it's -- they can sign up at ready chess co.org. and with that we will be happy to take any questions might have at this time. sorry. one second. if we could display the photos here. i can start with a question. >> he is now out of that
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two-mile radius that you were looking in yesterday? >> yes, south of that radius. we have shifted that perimeter now to include that area. what i can tell you, i think that what's occurred is that that pressure that we have been putting on him is working. we squeezed him enough over period of a few days -- and managed to find a place to get out. obviously, i wish we would have been able to capture him without getting through that perimeter. it's not shocking. it's dark. it's a large area. not to make excuses. it's difficult terrain and things. >> is this more remote? >> no, this is a little more open. i am encouraged by the fact he is there. the other thing i am encouraged by is that we realized within just a few hours where he was, and so he is not had a tremendous amount of time to move a long distance. so, again, because it's another opportunity to squeeds him within that perimeter. >> do you think he walked across baltimore pike? are you looking at the
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possibility that he crossed that busy -- >> we are looking into that possibility. again where he was spotted, he was not across baltimore pike there. but, obviously, we consider anything and the perimeter has expanded south of route 1 as well. >> is this trail camera monitored either by law enforcement or by longwood 24/7? >> no, it was a private camera and an individual checked it and notified us promptly. >> longwood gardens camera? >> it's my understanding that they allow some others to put cameras on their property, and that individual provided the information. >> any idea how he got supplies? >> i can't confirm at this point where he got those supplies. again, obviously, puck them up somewhere along the way. ops so, obviously, he got into a structure, a car, something, and obtained some clothing. in fact, we have the pictures up here now.
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you can see from this picture he has got a sling-type duffle bag. also shorter straps in another photo you will you will see in a moment, he has a backpack on, on his back as well. so he has got two packs. he also, no another picture, he obtained a hooded sweatshirt. if we can -- what i tell you is that, you know, i mentioned there were two different times. when he walked into that area, was likely not well oriented, headed north probably ran into the perimeter, realized he couldn't go that way, and turned the opposite direction and came back through the camera a second time. so this is when, with the pack on and the hoodie, he is headed north, actually, here, and then about roughly an hour later he is coming back south without the hoodie on.
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>> that photo is from when? 9:30? >> let me get the time here. yeah, the time is an hour off that's depicted on the camera. sorry. give me a minute to find my times here. it was about an hour apart. it was roughly 8:20 and 9:30. >> we heard 10:30 for the shirt off -- >> i understand that. the timestamp on the photo should be -- i mean the timestamp is an hour off. it's actually 9:30 and -- >> no, it's 8:30. >> and the other 8:30, or thereabouts. 9333 is one. 8:21 was the first one. it says 9:21. then he is headed south at 9:33.
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>> are you widening the perimeter or moving it south? how would you -- >> we are expanding the perimeter, but also eliminating the northern end of that perimeter. so the community that was surrounded by that won't be surrounded by it now. so if you went to the southern end of what we had established previously as a perimeter and go south from there, down and across baltimore pike, that would be the current area. >> did he make a mistake or is this another attempt, successful attempt from the day before at this point? >> i think he is absolutely succumbing the pressure and, yes, he is trying to escape. and that's what he managed to do. he found a point that he could squeeze through that perimeter and he traveled south. we will now expand that perimeter and move it so that we can try to encapsulate him again. we are already actively searching those areas. >> do you know anything more about his background? does he have survival skills? clearly, he has been stealing
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stuff. what can you tell the public? this guy is cunning and he has been able to evade you for six days. >> we are not aware of survival skills. you are dpeelg with someone who is desperate and can't be caught. if he can find clothing, shelter, some food, he is going to take advantage of whatever he finds. that's why we pressure him to not allow him the luxury of rest and then we are asking the public to help us by making sure things are secure so that we can minimize his opportunities to obtain those things that he doesn't otherwise have. he doesn't have, to our knowledge, carbs orsupplies he n obtain as we have seen in other searches we have done. that's not the case here. i believe this was an opportunity he took to get out of the jail and once out he is now winging it. and so he does what he has to do
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to avoid escape, or capture. >> his mother, convince him to turn himself back in? >> we have not since yesterday. and we will have to evaluate whether we think that would be effective going forward. >> long gardens is closed today. are you going to be searching? >> longwood gardens is closed. we will be in that area not only longwood gardens, but the entire area. we will be pushing through. >> he could walk to delaware today if he was able to walk that far. are you coordinating with officials in delaware? >> we are. >> does that change anything if he crosses the state line? >> it really doesn't. there is a federal warrant that the marshals have obtained for him, that's, again, federal warrants. so it covers us regardless where he goes. at this point, i don't believe he has made it to delaware. i believe he is well into pennsylvania. and we are going to act on that and continue to pressure him.
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but at the same time, we always look at options ooeven while we were looking at that perimeter. as i said yesterday, we follow up on any tip. we don't discount anything. certainly that's why, you know, in this case there is a solid tip, but we have had lots of others. we follow up on those as well on the chance that he has managed to get out of that area. and certainly, you know, even prior to this, we had already been coordinating with delaware. >> what is the latest on the investigation into how he was able to get out? is there any clarity on what happened? >> my understanding is there is not going to be anything released on that right away. i think the investigation is still ongoing. i can tell you that there have been many interviews done and both in an effort to investigate the escape, but also to assist us in looking at any plans, any contacts he may have had on the outside. that kind of thing. so that all factors into it.
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unless the district attorney has something to add, i would say we are not in a position to start releasing anything on that. >> what is the situation at the prison now? are the inmates still on lockdown? are there transports in and out of there? >> i can't answer that. >> with the search -- saying heavily wooded area, could you describe to the public what that means? some people are saying, oh, six days, where are the dogs, that kind of stuff. describe what it's like. >> what i would describe, again, you heard me refer to other searches. i mean, the terrain here, while one would think we are not in the middle of a national forest or something else, what you have, though, are significant parcels of wooded area with a lot of undergrowth. so thick that our searchers can't be more than a couple of yards apart. at times, they lose sight of one another. they have to hack their way through and go around and make
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sure they covered that area because you can't walk through it. that's certainly not everywhere, threw there are large patches of that kind of undergrowth in the woods. additionally, one of the challenges you have here that you don't have in a larger forest is you've got people with large yards, parcels of land, multiple acres with outbuildings and, you know, shrubbery, landscaping, all kinds of things, sheds that afford an opportunity to hide. again, none of it insurmountable, but it makes for additional challenges when you are searching those areas. there are a lot of places that someone could hide, and, again, you would think, you know, we are in a closer to an urban area here, there wouldn't be all of these forests. there are. >> what is the long-term game plan? if this goes into a seventh, eighth day, a week, a month, are you going to scale down
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resources? >> the long-term game plan, as long as we believe we are going effective, an i do believe, we will continue with the search. we will continue a hard search and we will capture him. we have had searches that have gone well in excess of a month. we have kept the pressure on. he is a bad guy. he needs to be in custody. we are determined to capture him. so as long as we have the ability to identify areas that are suitable for us to be searching, we will continue to do that. again, i am confident that in the long run he will be captured. >> the hooded sweatshirt, what is the description? do you have a clothing description? >> i don't have a color or anything on that sweatshirt at this point. we are analyzing some things. one of the challenges with a picture like this, it's, you know, night vision or infrared. so colors don't translate easily. we are having people take a look at it to see if we can make a determination of it. but i don't have a color or anything to provide at this point. >> how did it come about that state police started --
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>> you have been watching a press conference in westchester, pennsylvania, related to an individual who is a convicted felon, with no prospect of getting out of prison for murder. he has been on the run six days now. they are giving an update in press conference for the first time. joining us danny freeman, casey jordan and charles ramsey. danny, as our correspondent on the ground there for the entirety of this search, what was the biggest news you took away from that? >> reporter: well, the biggest news, phil, is what we were teasing earlier in the hour, that it does appear now that this search has expanded quite a bit. initially, law enforcement officials were saying that the search was focused it to a but now last night, law enforcement officials say that this man was actually spotted on trail cameras in longwood
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gardens around 9:30 at night. i hope we have the images. you can see it's kind of an eerie picture. it's him shirtless with a backpack still potentially wearing the prison-issued pants captured on a trail camera and then at around 9:30 last night on monday night. and i just want to describe the area for viewers in case they are unfamiliar. it's a popular tourist spot and also locals in the greater philly region. they enjoy going there. it's a 200-acre sprawling space with a lot of gardens, a lot of lush open meadows as well. and also wiepding paths. and this had been closed because the investigation during part of the weekend, but then it seemed like the search was being focused north of there. now in this press conference, we just learned pennsylvania state police said they cleared some of the more northern parts of their search and now they are looking
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at longwood gardens. 200 acres is a huge space there. we have been seeing a lot of pennsylvania state police troopers and other police presence all surrounding that area there. >> you were the police chief in philadelphia. as you listen to this and heard they saw him again last night and that he's getting into structures or buildings and getting clothes and one would think cash or some sort of food, what are your biggest questions as they expand the search? >> first of all, they have e adjusted their search area. they did recommend and followed the recommendations to get the schools closed. it's not so much the schools are in danger, but you have to look at the area the schools are drawn from. you have kids standing on side roads wauting for buss to be picked up. you don't want to expose them to anything at all. he's already apparently made
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entry into something that could be a vehicle or a shed or a home. and that's why you see the change of clothes and the backpacks. he needs money, he needs food, he needs transportation. so he's still desperate. he's going to continue to do whatever he can do to get out of that area. because right now, he's pinned in. it's difficult terrain. it takes time to search it, but eventually they will get it. you hope no one else is put in any kind of danger because he is desperate and he will break into a house. he will carjack a vehicle, if he can. those kinds of things, you have to be very concerned about. he may have access to a weapon now if he broke into a home. he could have a knife or a gun. >> to that point, listening to the press conference that this was a positive result because they have the stress efforts, the product on him are, wog, that's why he went outside of
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the search radius. explain that, if you can. it's been six days at this point. >> they are trying to try anxious late the information. they are getting a the lot of tips. at least two, maybe four burglaries in that area could be attributed to him. we have that really surprising testimony of the man he broke into the house in the kitchen and flashed the lights five times and the guy flashed the light back. thanks for letting me go and out the door with food. but people will be missing that duffel bag, that sweatshirt, that backpack. and the more they can ask the public to help, has anyone taken clothes off your clothesline. you have to remember he had the foresight to escape on labor day weekend. so a lot of people have been away and may not even know their homes or garage have been broken into. as they get that data, you believe this is him who broke into my house, they will be able to get a clear path and map it out. that's why they keep expand ing
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the perimeter. it would be hpful if they showed us exactly where the sightings were, because the public is going to solve this. >> there are a the lo of cameras now. i thought it was interesting one of the journalists asked about what if he walks into delaware and the chief said no issue. we have jurisdiction. there's a federal warrant here. that would complicate things for them big time, right? >> well, not necessarily. obviously, the delaware state police and ores from that area would be involved in the search, but they kwould would just shift the area that they are searching. so this guy is wanted for homicide. he is a very dangerous individual. they will use every resource they have available to them. they already have the u.s. marshals, fbi and others that are involved in this search. they will just continue to search. hopefully he doesn't make it to
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delaware, but if he does, it's not going to make any difference. they will keep up the pressure. >> good to know. >> thank you all very much. we'll keep following this. a lot of news still to come on it. "cnn news central" is going to start and take you more after this break. when you walk up to the coter at the pharmacy
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